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CNN – Quest Means Business
New Tariffs — Trade War
Robert Lawrence Kuhn, September 18, 2018
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HOST: Now from Beijing, Robert
Lawrence Kuhn is a long-time
advisor to China's leaders and the
author of “How China's Leaders
Think”. Thank you so much for
joining us. We appreciate it. Your
reaction to Jack Ma's prediction and
do you agree?
RLK: The public stance of China has
to be strong. The legitimacy of the
government and of the Communist
Party is based on two primary
factors. One is the economic
development.
RLK: China is celebrating this year
40 years of reform and opening up
really having created an economic
miracle, an astonishing 50 times
increase of GDP per capita. So that
has been terrific. The second area is
national pride and national
rejuvenation. And frankly, China as
almost every other country, if the
two come into conflict, the latter
has to prevail, especially in China
with a history of 100 years of
bullying, as they say, by foreign
powers, mostly Western, and then
of course Japan.
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RLK: This has caused a deep scar in
the Chinese psyche. So you have all
of these factors coming together —
but I can tell you the public stance
of the government, of Jack Ma we
just heard, is very strong and they
have to be.
RLK: If you look at what President
Trump said, that is not a public
posture for seeking solution. Not
just saying tariffs will go up to 25
percent in January will go up, but
then threatening if you retaliate at
all, we're going to levy tariffs on
everything else [$500+ billion
Chinese goods]. That's a very
aggressive stance and China really
has no choice.
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RLK: But behind the scenes, I
talked to economists, the leading
economists officials, every day.
Everybody wants a solution and
they want it a lot sooner than 20
years. But number one, they have
to have a government in
Washington that are people they
can talk to, that they will have
confidence that what they say will
be implemented. And the Chinese
want a solution because many of
the problems, if we l

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