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CNN TODAY
US-China Tariffs, Trade War
Robert Lawrence Kuhn, August 2, 2018
Host: To talk about the potential impact [of
tariffs]…. Robert Lawrence Kuhn is a long-time
advisor to China’s leaders and the Chinese
government. He is also the author of How
China’s Leaders Think. You are the perfect
person to have on to get China’s perspective.
Thank you so much for joining us.
RLK: A Pleasure.
Host: So Trump is obviously hoping for some
kind of trade deal, but is this going to work?
Tariffs to get Chinese officials to the table?
RLK: Certainly from China’s point of view, they
were very happy with the status quo before this
occurred. They blame the U.S. for starting a
trade war. They think the U.S. will suffer and,
indeed in a trade war, everybody suffers. There
are some serious problems, though, that
American experts, American government
[policies], reflect. Very few people in the U.S.
actually support the tariffs themselves. There
will be higher prices for consumers. There will
be more people affected – [there are] more
industries that use steel than produce steel.
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RLK: So there’s a significant impact [on the
US]. The US hope is that China will be
pressured to make changes in its policy. Now
the [tariff] policy is not just [targeting] the
trade deficit. The policies are, what are called,
China’s closed market, intellectual property
protection, industrial espionage, tech transfers
and JVs (to get the Chinese market) and
government support for tech. And for each of
these, China has responses. China says it was
doing what was appropriate under the WTO
because it was a developing country. Now that
it’s advanced, it’s opening markets.
China has a “negative list” telling people
[companies] what it cannot do, making it much
easier; China is also opening further in autos
and financial services. But they need to be
pushed more. Even economists in China
recognize that, that coming out of this, if we
have cool heads and smart brains, both sides
can be better off.
HOST: So are th

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